How to become a Jnani (an enlightened person)?! Munagala Venkataramiah, "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Vol. 1"

How to become a Jnani (an enlightened person)?! Munagala Venkataramiah, "Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Vol. 1"

I thought I had become a Jnani (an enlightened person), but after reading the following passages, I realized I still have a long way to go.

So, not being aware of one's own activities like eating, talking, and moving is the state that is set as the goal.

A Jnani is truly amazing, isn't he... (lol)

Also, there was this passage.

It says that a Jnani is unaware not just of events, but even of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. This is the state that is set as the goal.

Surely, one would be aware of waking, dreaming, and deep sleep, right... (lol)

Self-realization is much more amazing than I thought (lol)

Even though I thought I had realized the Self, reading these passages makes me realize that it's not so easy to become a Jnani (lol)

However, I think his expression of "not being aware" does not mean lacking physical perception, but rather signifies inner freedom and transcendence.

If you look at it that way, it makes sense.

Perhaps the goal that all spiritual seekers should aim for lies here.

This requires a considerable amount of training and practice, doesn't it?

This requires a considerable amount of training and practice, doesn't it? (bitter laugh)

Don't we have no choice but to do the four virtues we did before?

The four virtues are
1. Discrimination(the power to distinguish between the eternal and unchanging (the Self) and the impermanent and changing (material phenomena and the body))
2. Non-attachment(renouncing attachment to temporary pleasures, sensory satisfaction, and material possessions)
3. The six virtues
4. Intense longing for liberation(you could also call it an intense longing for bliss, right?!)
—these four.

What are the six virtues?

The six virtues are,
1. Control of the mind(Controlling thoughts and emotions to keep them quiet and steady)
2. Control of the senses(Restraining the senses (sight, hearing, touch, etc.) so as not to react excessively to external stimuli)
3. Withdrawal from attachments(Detaching from worldly pleasures and personal desires. Specifically, it refers to an attitude of dedicating oneself to duty and right action (Dharma) without being swayed by emotions or desires)
4. Endurance(The power to remain patient and emotionally unresponsive to pain, hardship, and adversity)
5. Faith and trust(Deep trust in the Guru, the scriptures (Vedas), and the Truth. Having unwavering faith on the path of inquiry)
6. Stability and concentration of the mind(Keeping the mind focused on one point and maintaining a stable state without wavering or confusion)
—these are the six.

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It takes time for the knowledge of the Self to be established.

There is also a passage like this in the book.

But there is also a passage like this.

The former gives hope, but the latter confronts you with reality, doesn't it?

Although it is a different book, there is a section written about vasanas.

Maybe this is easier than practicing the four virtues? (Bitter laugh)

Well then, shall we continue to keep noticing the Self as we have been doing?! (Laughs)

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