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October 2023

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hello , just got these https://www.isro.gov.in/Gaganyaan_TV-D1_Mission.html printed over 4-RAZOR 01 (talk) 14:52, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of frigates of India

The induction of Nilgiri-class frigate (2019) is apparently not being updated in the List of frigates of India article. Could you go ahead and update the details using templates, links and citations? I had an exam underway which is why my time on Wikipedia reduced. I will also sort out the issue on Pinaka variants for which I have a solution and will share it soon. Thanks. Aviator Jr (talk) 17:33, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Understood, will have it done by evening, 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 07:19, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

I wont be active for a little while, if i am, ill be primarily doing cleanupwork on the List of Frigates page. Ill also add the List of destroyers and corvettes page to my worklist. Expecting all three to be ready for work by May20-30 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 15:08, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

That would be great. There are major discontinuities in the List of active Indian Navy ships and the respective destroyer, frigate and corvette articles for the Indian Navy. Meanwhile, I will be try to work on List of submarines of the Indian Navy and List of historical ships of the Indian Navy and bring them in sync with the active ships template. Aviator Jr (talk) 17:08, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

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Operation Urja Suraksha

Table is not a good idea to add new info like number of Indian flagged ships in the region and number of foreign flagged ships with a destination in India. I suggest reverting back to a timeline based section where we can merge the dates into weeks maybe. But there are several information that I have got for which I do not have a proper place in this table format, which has multiple errors as well. Regards, Aviator Jr (talk) 17:41, 5 April 2026 (UTC).

@Aviator Jr I belive the table was a better way to present with respect to the content.

As we have several different ships containing data from several different times, I belive it will be better to present it in a tabular form as

• It will be in format with rest of the article
• It will present data on each ship for their crossing individually
• It will shorten the section and make the page more organised.

With this as the factory, I worked on tabularising the page a few days ago, as it would satisfy the above three. Maybe we can come to a better agreement on this?

Sorry if I take time to respond, In midst of exam season.I appreciate all the exceptionally hard work you have put on the page.

Sincerely 04:02, 6 April 2026 (UTC) 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 04:02, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

We can always create more data to fill in the tables. Furthermore a neat and well organised table can contain individual cells talking about factors like

• Date of crossing
• Orgin port
• Destination(s)
• Cargo
• Crew (if present)

Making the section far more concise and easy to read. I shall draft a new variant of the table in the sandbox soon (maybe today or tomorrow). You can go over it and if it is sufficient, I'll add it to the page, savvy?

Also how do we get rid of the maintenance tag? I belive the article was sufficiently rewritten that it does not resemble an LLM's work.

4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 04:15, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

I have started work on the improvisation, will inform you upon conclusion. 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 10:11, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

I have added a table under a new "Summary" section. How about that? Aviator Jr (talk) 15:52, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

Promotional/unreliable sources

Hello, I removed some sources from a couple articles you created. Army-recognition is a publisher of press releases without any original input and is not a useful source. Military Today is a self-published source and not reliable -- Reconrabbit 20:46, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

Oh, okay, duly noted. 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 05:14, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

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Oh, Okay ! , I'm sorry for that rookie error, i made, will ensure it will not happen again 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 05:29, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

2025 India-Pakistan conflict should be deleted and new article to be formed

As I told you earlier that the 2025 India-Pakistan conflict is heavily biased towards a particular nation and you got the live example of that few days back when that SherrifisinTown deleted the entire edit you made just saying the sources are "unreliable" accordingto him. This is not new, he is the one who earlier put those Alan Warnes articles without any discussion later he forcefully also put them in the article. This Wikipedia article is just turned into a Pakistani propaganda article, by discussing with Indian wikipedia defence community please create a new page plz its the need of an hour. You need to understand that Sherrif is like that only if you don't be tough against him, he will not let you make any. ~2026-42285-6 (talk) 18:34, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

My apolgies, but cannot work there. as you have seen on the talk page, the Page has just achived siginificat balance, and it would be unwise to countinue any inflammatory edits there. I will only resume large scale editing on the page, IF and ONLY IF either the Indian Government or the Paxtan gov releases and more important or highly valuable data, otherwise it does not make sense. As i stated before, poor quality Indian side material cannot be used on this page. the other edits i will consider 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 12:48, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

Will you please mention Indian claims in the article please as mentioned earlier and numerous times. I beleive you can atleast use Indian sources in it like Pakistani sources were used. Indian Army released footages of Pakistani border posts being destroyed, BSF destroyed 118 LoC posts just put those in the article that will be all ~2026-50389-24 (talk) 11:38, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Have done some neccesary edits some time ago, but have stopped at that, as I reiterate my position, cannot create either a pro-india or a pro-paxtan article 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 11:41, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

I am not telling you to do that either telling you to atleast mention the missed Indian claims in the article as it's not even mentioned ~2026-50389-24 (talk) 12:32, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Please take note of it too ~2026-50914-83 (talk) 18:23, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

False propaganda theory of PNS Hunain is being spread in the PNS Hunain article. Indian ship suffered no damages at all whereas Hunain suffered damages as per all Indian and neutral sources. Some Pakistani editors are vandalising edits and doing propaganda ~2026-50392-11 (talk) 18:42, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Requesting some new pages and updates

I want to create you an article on Operation Trashi-I & II, this are aboout Indian army operation last time I saw in news at end of feb around 7 terrorists were killed, also about July 2025 Indian drone strikes in Myanmar silently accepted by the armed forces on Republic Day. The last one is absolute your choice about Operation Keller, 3 terrorists were killed on 13th May, three days after India-Pakistan conflict. And finally update Indian Air Force claim of destroying multiple F-16s in PAF Base Shahbaz (radar and another hangar too) and UAV'S in PAF Base Murid. Put satallite images there if possible ~2026-42285-6 (talk) 18:44, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

Well, yes i have considerd it, but the insane llack of reliable sources, has been an hinderance. i had created a drat for the myannamar operation, but the utmost secracy that it ws conducted does not give me a proper opportunity to expand on the topic. Regarding F-16s, I might probably get banned (need "western sources") but i will see to it on Trashi 1,2 and keller, maybe adding it to the aftermath of the war.

Thanks 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 03:05, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

The strike damaged a Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C airborne early warning aircraft of the No. 53 Squadron PAF. India further claimed that its strikes on Bholari had destroyed several Pakistani aircraft, including F-16s and JF-17s and Indian officials released satellite imagery as supporting evidence for these claims. This is mentioned very properly in the PAF Base Bholari article , though these are not international sources, they are provided with reliable indian sources, you can put the claim of destroying planes from a very responsible and senior person like IAF chief in articles. Plz do these are necessary ~2026-42285-6 (talk) 18:16, 16 April 2026 (UTC)

I think that was mentioned, I remember adding that a while ago, lemme see, but no guarantees on content addition 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 03:52, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

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Dubious - Next Generation Launch Vehicle

Why did you remove the dubious tag I placed on According to former ISRO Chairman S. Somanath, the new rocket has a load capacity of between 20 and 1,215 tonnes. without posting anything on the talk page or rewording the statement? I believe the Moneycontrol source given is unreliable. It explicitly states

The ISRO chairman said that the space agency is “developing a new rocket that will be able to carry a load of 20 to 1,215 tonnes,” noting that currently, India’s rocket can only take 10 tonnes.

but this cannot be correct, because 1,200 tons is too large to be anything but launchpad mass. "Between 20 and 1,215 tonnes" is technically correct, in that it is unlikely that the rocket would carry more than 1,215 tonnes of payload, but the range is misleading because it implies that the payload capacity is somewhere in the ballpark of the upper figure. I don't believe the quote should be in the article, and I would like to know your rationale for keeping it. IrisPersephone (she/her) (talk • contribs) 02:16, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

i did that under two factors.

1. I considered the source Moneycontrol and economic times asreliable enough as it has been made use on other articles similarly
2. As the NGLV is not a singular rocket, but a family of inter-related rockets, he could have been refering to any future starship-espou variants. He did however say that the baseline variant could only fly 30 tonnes, so your argument is valid

In summary these were the arguments i used on erring-edit. I think it would be prudent to instead wait until he gives a better estimate (even Starship mk4 tops at I think 500 tonnes.) 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 03:13, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

From what I've seen, the heaviest variant which has been announced is NGLV-SH (I suppose it's Lunar Module Launch Vehicle now?) with the 75t payload to LEO. I think waiting until we get more information is prudent, like you suggested, but I think that the dubious tag would still be useful for the reader. In the future I'd appreciate it if you explained your thinking on the article talk page before removing it, so I don't have to ask you next time it happens. IrisPersephone (she/her) (talk • contribs) 05:34, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

Understood, will do so. Hoping he will clarify information soon.

Thanks👍 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 08:15, 24 April 2026 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Indian Space Research Organisation templates

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Hey, I had added the following templates to the page

1. Template:Timeline of the Chandrayaan programme
2. Template:Indian Department of Space
3. Template:Indian launch systems
4. Template:Indian spacecraft
5. Template:IRNSS satellites
6. Template:ISRO facilities

I do not know why they are not showing up on the main category page, but they all are present on each template/do page and does link back 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 06:50, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Integrated Rocket Force

The Indian military has not decided whether a separate structure will be established like the Integrated Rocket Force. In fact, it is not clear, even the plan moves forward, whether it will be a military command or a separate service. I think we should have waited for some more time before creating a new article for this. Aviator Jr (talk) 07:37, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

I saw that there was an article on Air Defence Command which was going to be Like merging the Indian Air force Anti-Air units instead of IAF Air defence or Airmy Air defence corps. It ultimatly fell through. I created the article as IRF is becoming more likely, seeing that most weapons proposed under IRF have either been develope or undergone Testing. This might even be like a fourth branch f service in the Indian Armed forces. But i think the article would need more content still 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 11:10, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Okay then let's keep it. I think we need to incorporate some changes in the article to bring it on the line of that of some counterpart forces of the U.S., Russia, China and Ukraine. Also I think we should keep some introductory part in the "Integrated Rocket Force" section of the Integrated Theatre Command (India) article. Another suggestion: please avoid using citations from MSN. Use the links from the original websites instead. It will be useful. Thanks. Aviator Jr (talk) 13:03, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, i aplogise about the MSN, on my system more often than not Microsoft promotes reading an article in MSN and i get a tad fed up finding the original link, especially since i try to find it 2 or 3 others like it. I should fix that on Urja Surakshas page though 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 13:14, 5 May 2026 (UTC)

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Okay, i will fix it

Thanks 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 06:16, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

May 2026

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Yeah, ill add explanations when removing furter info, I Saw the article and thought the article had good scope for improvement 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 16:14, 10 May 2026 (UTC)

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Thank you the review. I will constructively improve the article to meet the criterion. 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 11:48, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

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Of course, i will find more alternate sources. thanks 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 10:00, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

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Surely! 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 11:30, 20 August 2026 (UTC)

@War Wounded From my understanding of the verdict, I have not done any form or any edit in the sort of POV-pushing or sockpuppeting on the article Operation Safed Sagar. I belive my content only presented facts and i have strived to present them in a way that does not demonish either armed forces. The page has not been used to promote ill-will towards either side, nor have i engaged in any edit warring through my expansion of the page. All sources used have been verified and credible. I firmly belive that the page presented a more detailed content as such when i last edited it, as compared to its earlier variants. I am requesting your comment why it does not merit such detailed content as i have edited back in. Yours sincerly 05:56, 21 August 2026 (UTC) 4-RΔ𝚉🌑R-01𝕏 (talk) 05:56, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

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Request for some Indian military updates

Many squadrons of the Indian Air Force and Many regiments of the Indian Army lack images and captions. I hope you will visit List of active Indian Air Force aircraft squadrons and List of regiments and corps of the Indian Army to give seals/Insignia to them who don't have it and up-to-date things. It's an request. ~2026-50914-83 (talk) 18:22, 20 September 2026 (UTC)