@Guseynaga, The mentioned discussion is about the logo change, and there is no proposal regarding the namespace alias change. Please start a new discussion for the namespace alias change and post the link here after two weeks of discussion.

@DreamRimmer @Nemoralis @Aklapper
Hello. On June 10, a new discussion was created to change the names of spaces and reflect the name of the language (from Tolışi to Tolyšə). After two weeks, the discussion can be considered completed.

@Superpes15 @DreamRimmer @Nemoralis @Aklapper
Hello! Please pay attention to my application again.

@Guseynaga: If you want to make this configuration change yourself, please see https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_site_requests and give it a try in Gerrit.

Change #1070346 had a related patch set uploaded (by NMW03; author: NMW03):

[mediawiki/core@master] Updated Talysh namespaces

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1070346

@Guseynaga I will send patches to update Module and Project namespaces, also language name. Can you tell me if it is necessary to add other aliases for new namespace names? I removed some old aliases as they were never used on wiki (such as Koməgi_nopegət)

Change #1070347 had a related patch set uploaded (by NMW03; author: NMW03):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Update wgSitename for tlywiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1070347

Change #1070348 had a related patch set uploaded (by NMW03; author: NMW03):

[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@master] Added Talysh namespaces

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1070348

Are you able to provide source for new autonym (Tolyšə)?

@Nemoralis
source for new autonym:

• Pirejko, L. A., 1976. Talyšsko-russkij slovar (Talyshi-Russian Dictionary), Moscow.
• Məmmədov, Novruzəli; Ağayev, Şahrza (1996). Əlifba — Tolışi əlifba. Baku: Maarif.

Change #1070348 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@master] Added Talysh namespaces

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1070348

Change #1070347 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Update wgSitename for tlywiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1070347

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-09-11T20:49:40Z] <cjming@deploy1003> Started scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1070347|Update wgSitename for tlywiki (T367009)]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-09-11T20:51:37Z] <cjming@deploy1003> cjming, nmw03: Backport for [[gerrit:1070347|Update wgSitename for tlywiki (T367009)]] synced to the testservers (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mwdebug)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-09-11T21:01:31Z] <cjming@deploy1003> Finished scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1070347|Update wgSitename for tlywiki (T367009)]] (duration: 11m 51s)

Change #1076254 had a related patch set uploaded (by NMW03; author: NMW03):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Update wgMetaNamespace for tlywiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1076254

• Pirejko, L. A., 1976. Talyšsko-russkij slovar (Talyshi-Russian Dictionary), Moscow.
• Məmmədov, Novruzəli; Ağayev, Şahrza (1996). Əlifba — Tolışi əlifba. Baku: Maarif.

@Guseynaga , I couldn't find anything about new autonym in the sources you cited. Even the title of the second book has current autonym written on it

Change #1076254 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Update wgMetaNamespace for tlywiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1076254

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-10-01T20:04:40Z] <hashar@deploy2002> Started scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1076254|Update wgMetaNamespace for tlywiki (T367009)]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-10-01T20:06:57Z] <hashar@deploy2002> nmw03, hashar: Backport for [[gerrit:1076254|Update wgMetaNamespace for tlywiki (T367009)]] synced to the testservers (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mwdebug)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-10-01T20:12:02Z] <hashar@deploy2002> Finished scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1076254|Update wgMetaNamespace for tlywiki (T367009)]] (duration: 07m 21s)

I ran the script with --fix:

$ mwscript namespaceDupes.php --wiki=tlywiki --fix
0 pages to fix, 0 were resolvable.

pagelinks from=4970 ns=0 dbk=Vikipedija:FAQ -> Vikipedija:FAQ
pagelinks from=4970 ns=0 dbk=Vikipedija:Pəjdo_bykə -> Vikipedija:Pəjdo_bykə
pagelinks from=11744 ns=0 dbk=Vikipedija:Sijosət -> Vikipedija:Sijosət
pagelinks from=1 ns=0 dbk=Vikipedija:Taryxədə_ymružnə_ruž -> Vikipedija:Taryxədə_ymružnə_ruž
pagelinks from=1118 ns=0 dbk=Vikipedija:Taryxədə_ymružnə_ruž -> Vikipedija:Taryxədə_ymružnə_ruž
5 links to fix, 5 were resolvable, 0 were deleted.

Looks good!

And re running it everything looks good:

$ mwscript namespaceDupes.php --wiki=tlywiki
0 pages to fix, 0 were resolvable.

0 links to fix, 0 were resolvable, 0 were deleted.

Looks good!

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2024-10-01T20:28:43Z] <hashar> mwscript purgeList.php --wiki=tlywiki --namespace=4 # T367009

@Nemoralis
The original correct reflection of the name of the language in the Talysh language is "Tolyšə zyvon", in short - "Tolyšə". The form "Tolyši zyvon" or "Tolyši" is also sometimes given as a translation, but has a slightly different translation, more like - "Talysh language". In general, there are specific exceptions to the use of this form. And the most widely used is the form that I indicated for renaming and which should be reflected in other Wikipedias for the transition to the Talysh version of Wikipedia.
Sources:
1.) Толышə зывон. Фонетикə, морфологиjə, синтаксис (Talysh language: phonetics, morphology, syntax) / Farmoni Fakhraddin Aboszoda, Shiri Avaz Sadykhzoda. - Minsk: Medisont, 2019. - 233 p. link to news 1.
2.) Pireyko L.A., 1976. Talysh-Russian Dictionary (Talysh-Russian Dictionary), Moscow. - page 217.
3.) Məmmədov, Novruzəli; Ağayev, Şahrza (2006). Tolışə zıvon. Baku. (with the same name all 4 textbooks for grades 1-4)
4.) In 2023, books with the same title were also published.

@Nemoralis @DreamRimmer

I also wanted to clarify whether it is possible to add another problem here. There is an incorrect reflection of the letter Ǧǧ in the titles of articles and in chapters within the article itself. The letter is reflected crookedly. Is it possible to fix this problem here or is this a different kind of problem and should I contact another place?

An example of an incorrect reflection of a letter in a title.

This ticket is about adding namespaces. Please create a separate bug report for separate issues - thanks.

In T367009#10212215, @Guseynaga wrote:

@Nemoralis
The original correct reflection of the name of the language in the Talysh language is "Tolyšə zyvon", in short - "Tolyšə". The form "Tolyši zyvon" or "Tolyši" is also sometimes given as a translation, but has a slightly different translation, more like - "Talysh language". In general, there are specific exceptions to the use of this form. And the most widely used is the form that I indicated for renaming and which should be reflected in other Wikipedias for the transition to the Talysh version of Wikipedia.

@Amire80 can you comment on this?

In T367009#10213088, @Guseynaga wrote:

I also wanted to clarify whether it is possible to add another problem here. There is an incorrect reflection of the letter Ǧǧ in the titles of articles and in chapters within the article itself. The letter is reflected crookedly. Is it possible to fix this problem here or is this a different kind of problem and should I contact another place?

Please create a separate task

@Nemoralis
@Aklapper
@Amire80

Change the reflection of the language name from Tolışi to Tolyšə.

Hello, as I understand it, the problem has not been solved. The language name has not been corrected from the old alphabet to the new one, and the spelling error has not been corrected. I am attaching a screenshot of the problem.

I'm still confused, however, and I'm probably misunderstanding something. These books:

3.) Məmmədov, Novruzəli; Ağayev, Şahrza (2006). Tolışə zıvon. Baku. (with the same name all 4 textbooks for grades 1-4)
4.) In 2023, books with the same title were also published.

They say Tolışi / Tolışə and not Tolyšə.

Are there books that say Tolyšə?

@Amire80 @DreamRimmer @Aklapper @Nemoralis @Superpes15

They say Tolışi / Tolışə and not Tolyšə.

Are there books that say Tolyšə?

Hello. I will explain it in more detail now. There are no such books yet, the alphabet was developed by Talysh activists, linguists only in 2021. In the future, of course, it will be. The point is not in the books, but in the correct reflection of the name of the language, now it turns out that the Wikipedia interface and it is written in the Talysh alphabet, and the name of the language is written in the Azerbaijani Latin alphabet. Everything is very simple, you just need to bring the name of the language in line with the alphabet used.

@Guseynaga: Please do not ping a random number of people for no reason. It is distracting. Thanks.

removing tag as this is not in Q1 priorities (July 2025- Sep 2025), might need to revisit later

What is the current status of this? @Nemoralis are you still working on this? What remains to be done?

In T367009#11036571, @Pppery wrote:

What is the current status of this? @Nemoralis are you still working on this? What remains to be done?

There is a patch that is waiting to be merged, also we need to reach consensus on language's autonym. cc @Amire80

(What's left seems to be a core patch, not a site request)

Change #1070346 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] Updated Talysh namespaces

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1070346

As I understand it, the second issue isn't resolved, so why close it? If the namespaces have been updated, I'm open to the possibility, but I haven't seen any updates yet. However, the issue with the language name being reflected when switching to it from other language articles remains unresolved.

Please file a separate ticket for separate issues.