Since giving birth, I wondered if there was anything more important than nurturing life. I want to see more of the new world without being trapped by my own values. Someone who had asthma as a child.

Aren't we just living our lives as time passes by? I don't know if we are wasting, consuming, or squandering that time.
Aren't we living in a storm of time where everything rushes past us?
It's unbearable. It feels like my emotions are crumbling away like overcooked beef cheek. In the time that flies away, my emotions are being shredded as if they are being torn apart. I don't understand anymore.
As time changes, revolves, and stretches out like a piercing needle, we think hard, asking ourselves who we are, where we came from, and where we are going.
There was a big incident some time ago. What does that mean to me?
This is what the future era will be like. What about me then? What should I do?
In the midst of anxiety, in a sea of darkness, we are like blindfolded little people, always lost. Perhaps we just have to reach enlightenment. It might not be about giving up, but then again, the world is fine. Only humans are busy.
So, please enjoy this installment of the Infinite Nameless Interview! (Organizer: qbc)

Our guest this time is kiki!

Current state: I find it fun to have the feeling of being stripped of the idea that the world I believe is correct is everything.

qbc: What do you do now?

kiki: I have one child now, and I am just a mother.
While being a mother, I also work. It's a company that mainly deals with subscriptions for educational toys. For example, there are so many toys, but parents don't know which ones to choose for their children. There's the issue of plastic waste. Also, parents don't know what to do with their children or how to spend time with them.
Thinking about it, it's a waste to buy toys every time. So, with an educational toy subscription, buyers from all over the world select various toys, and experts choose the ones that are good for a child's growth and development, which are then shipped periodically.
I started working there part-time recently, and I'm on the team that cleans and manages the toys, using tools like doctor's kits or toothbrushes to polish them before shipping.

qbc: How is the work?

kiki: I'm working part-time as a dependent now, and I started that job this year.
Until then, I was actually working from morning till night, like a single male office worker.

qbc: How old is your child?

kiki: My child is 3 years old now.

qbc: Do you leave your child at daycare?

kiki: Yes. I married late and gave birth late, and after graduating from vocational school, I worked in a specialized field.
I was always doing a job where I would leave on the first train and come back on the last. I worked in sports medicine and science, dealing with people's bodies. It's a somewhat special job called an athletic trainer, which isn't very well known in the world.
I was working really hard there, so in terms of fulfillment, honestly, my previous job involved dealing with people, so there was definitely fulfillment in that.
Now, in a sense, I am dealing with objects, so the fulfillment regarding the work itself is lower. However, the workplace environment is incredibly good, and for the first time, I've been able to create time for myself.

qbc: I see.

kiki: Now that I'm turning 38, I've finally been able to create time to enjoy myself.
I've been able to balance things for the first time. I've finally been able to create time where I can enjoy myself and also enjoy my work in moderation.

qbc: Until how many years ago were you focused on work?

kiki: Until a year ago. Until last year.

qbc: Oh, that's quite recent. You were focused on work while also giving birth. By the way, was your job as a trainer? A personal trainer?

kiki: That's right. I would see people personally, and I would also do group sessions. My subjects included professional athletes, children from junior levels, elderly people, and general women; it really didn't matter who it was.
Some came for rehabilitation, some wanted to fix their eating habits, and I supported people like athletes aiming for the Olympics. I really did a wide range of things.

qbc: I see. How is that workplace different from your current one, including the environment?

kiki: The people working at my current workplace are mostly moms raising children, but everyone is truly a wonderful person.
This is my third company now. I was at the same trainer company for about 16 years.
After that, I was at a company for child development support, dealing with children with developmental disabilities, and I spent nearly a year doing things including exercise therapy. It's completely different.

qbc: Yes.

kiki: Also, there's the position of being a part-time worker. When I was a trainer, I was a full-time employee and joined early on, so everyone around me was my junior. The position was, of course, different too.
It's different, so where I was until now was really...I could only understand the world through one set of values. Like, if you do this, it's the correct answer, and if you do it this way, you'll succeed.
It was a company that was very deeply rooted in ideas like 'this is how work should be' or 'this is how a model senior should be.' I think that's true for the industry as well.
Companies that deal with children with developmental disabilities are also a bit old-fashioned. I feel like it's a company in the welfare sector that hasn't really been updated. There's a somewhat Showa-era way of thinking where self-sacrifice is seen as beautiful—not that it is, but there's always this idea that you're only worth something if you give your all for others. So, I think there's a foundation of thinking that aestheticizes the Showa era.

qbc: I see.

kiki: Having experienced that kind of workplace, I started to question year after year that I wasn't really dedicating enough time to my own children.
For example, as a company, you have to survive, so there's revenue, and the company says this is correct, so we'll do it this way, or this is success and this is failure—I think those are absolutely important things.
Especiallyafter giving birth, the thought that 'is there really anything more important than a person's life?' started to sprout in me. My values started to drift away from the company's.
Leading the charge, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with men, moving around a lot myself, and trying to win—I started to have some doubts about that kind of thing. So, I changed jobs, and I feel like, 'Oh, there's a world like this too,' and I really feel comfortable here now.

qbc: How do you feel about it?

kiki: It's easy. I guess it's fun.

qbc: Wasn't your previous job fun?

kiki: It was fun... of course, the fun parts were fun. But the gap between the fun parts and the painful parts was very extreme.

qbc: Was there also suffering?

kiki: Of course.

qbc: What about your current job? Is there suffering?

kiki: None at all.

qbc: I see. I think you might have felt the joy of overcoming suffering in your previous job.
Which do you prefer, the fun of your previous job or the fun of your current workplace?

kiki: That's a difficult question. It's very difficult.
For example, you've been doing things up until now because there's a joy in overcoming suffering, right?
If I try to do the same kind of work as my previous job, where there is joy because there is suffering, my body breaks down.

qbc: Is that because you've gotten older?

kiki: I don't know. I don't know if it's because I'm pushing myself too hard.
I've been trying to prove my existence by saying there's joy because there's suffering. It seems I have a tendency to try hard in the wrong direction there.
For decades, I've been trying to prove my existence, but now, I've sort of stopped needing to prove it.
Instead of that, I feel like it's okay to just slowly enjoy my own happiness now.

qbc: How much free time do you have now, and what do you do with that time?

kiki: I've become able to have one day a week for myself.

qbc: Couldn't you have that before?

kiki: I couldn't have it before.
On my days off, I wasn't working, but I was doing solo parenting.
My husband was also working full-time, and even when he was home, I'd just sit down and sigh.
So, on my days off, I was with the children, and I felt like, 'Wait, I'm working more on my days off, aren't I?'
At my previous workplace, there were times when I felt like I was working even on my days off. So now, I'm really able to have one day off a week for sure.

qbc: How do you spend your days off?

kiki: This is something that has surprised me recently, too. I've started to enjoy reading.
Until now, if I had a day off, I would study to improve myself or go to seminars.
I felt like I had to kill time because it would be a waste otherwise. Recently, there was a period where I wanted to step away from social media.
For example, the TV is occupied by the kids, with things like YouTube.
That said,when I look at my own Facebook or Instagram, I sometimes feel a bit unsettled.I think I probably compare myself to others unconsciously. I felt it wasn't very good for my mind or body.
So, I started reading books. I hadn't really used the library much, but I looked up interesting-looking books online.
You can reserve books at the library, right? I reserved them, went to pick them up, and read them for a week. As I read, I found myself surprisingly immersed in them,thinking, 'Books are actually interesting, aren't they?' Plus, with the library, I don't have to buy them.
Then it became more and more fun, so I'd reserve more, wait a week, and go pick them up.
This cycle has become kind of interesting. So, I'm reading books.

qbc: What genre of books?

kiki: The genre is novels. I'm not really into romance, so right now I'm reading Haruki Murakami's '1Q84'. An acquaintance told me about the story set in Sangenjaya.
Before that, I started reading a mystery involving children, which was interesting because the descriptions were realistic, yet it was also a story about another world.

qbc: What do you find interesting about reading books?

kiki:There are times when even the words in a book can take you by surprise, right?
I think the 'Nameless Interview' is the same way. While living with the values that what I think is everything, it's very interesting to see and learn that there are protagonists living with different values.
For example, novels have various characters and describe various people's lives. Someone might look a certain way at first glance, but behind the scenes, their life is actually like this. I think that's surely the case in everyday life, too.
You might think someone looks wonderful and very happy, but you don't really know, right? Knowing things like that,it's fun to have the feeling that the world I assumed was correct isn't everything, and to have that stripped away.

Past: To cure my asthma, I lived away from my parents for two years. I entered a facility in Chiba when I was in the 4th and 5th grade of elementary school.

qbc: What kind of child were you when you were young?

kiki: When I was a child, I was a very fun-loving kid, the kind who would laugh at anything, even if a pair of chopsticks fell over.
But on the other hand, what remained deeply rooted in me was that I was physically weak and had asthma. I was in and out of the hospital during elementary school.

qbc: I see.

kiki: So,to cure my asthma, I lived away from my parents for two years. I entered a facility in Chiba when I was in the 4th and 5th grade of elementary school.
It was like a hospital combined with a school. It was a dormitory life with childcare workers, and there was a large garden and school building. I lived in a very nature-rich rural area in Chiba.
My hometown was Sumida Ward in Tokyo, and children with health problems from elementary schools in Sumida Ward were gathered there to live together and gain healthy bodies.
We lived a regular life there. At that time, I was a child who had such severe attacks that I had to take about 10 pills a day. But once I went there, my asthma was cured.
It was cured in one year, and in the second year, I said, 'I want to go because it's fun,' and I went.

qbc: The environment was really good, wasn't it?

kiki: It was really, incredibly fun. Because, as for what we did, we would wake up very early, around 6 o'clock in the morning. We'd start with dry friction (kanpu masatsu). And for meals, we would all eat meals with excellent nutritional balance made by the cooks in the cafeteria.
Then we'd go to school and come back.
The garden was large, and since it was in the middle of great nature, we would play a lot. Also, since the childcare workers were mainly looking after us, there were many events, every single month.
Birthday parties, seasonal events, and so on. We'd go to the mountain behind the school to hunt for treasure. Even on weekends, it was like an event every day. So it was very positive. Of course, we studied too, andwe lived a very healthy and fun life.

qbc: Was that experience a pretty big one for you?

kiki: It was incredibly big. That's right. It really was.
We could only see our parents once a month, really. Even our own parents.
There were visiting days when we could meet. I wonder if we could make phone calls. Even for phone calls, at that time, what was it, you'd put in 10 yen? So I think we could only talk for about 100 yen worth, if I remember correctly. Maybe once a week.
Or we would correspond by letter. I think it was partly the era, but there was a day once a week to write letters, and the children would write letters to their own homes. And when a letter came from home, it was like, 'So-and-so, you have a letter from your mother,' and we'd open it and read it. We had that kind of exchange.

qbc: How did you feel emotionally when you were there for two years?

kiki: Since I was a child, I don't really know about the emotional changes. At first, of course, I was homesick and cried a lot.
But everyone around me was a child, and the bonds were quite deep.
We were from 3rd to 6th grade, but when we studied, the classrooms were divided from 3rd to 6th grade.
There were about 4 or 5 people per class on average, and about 16 to 20 people in total, I think. There were adults, like childcare workers, and we lived together with about 20 to 30 people in total.

qbc: So the number of staff wasn't huge either. I see.
Is the feeling of it being fun what remains most strongly?

kiki: It was strong, really. We played outside until evening.
There was only one TV. So, there were 20 children's opinions, and we were of different ages. So, we almost never watched TV.
If we were going to do something, we'd read the many manga or books available, or go outside. If there was nothing to play with, we'd create things ourselves because there was nature.
Strangely enough, if there was a big sandbox, someone would dig in the sand, add water, and knead the mud, and we could play restaurant, right? Everyone would join in, and we'd play various restaurants.
If someone carved a tree in the natural forest to make something like a sword, then we'd do that. We'd all wear equipment for a battle game. While wearing that equipment, we'd make a dumpling shop again.
It felt incredibly free. I think that was really great.

qbc: Do you remember how you changed before and after that?

kiki: For example, there are things you think, like if you eat this, it's bad for your body, or if you do this, you'll have an attack. I experienced it myself, for example, thinking that if a typhoon comes, I'll have an asthma attack, or if I don't pull the blanket up to my shoulders, I'll have an asthma attack.
I was a child who lived with those kinds of assumptions.
So,although I enjoyed various things as a child, I had a worrying side.
Also, I thought I was a child who couldn't do sports. I wonder if I lacked confidence. I don't know.

qbc: At that time, did you like reading books?

kiki: At that time, I preferred writing, if anything.
I would write my own stories even though I hadn't read any novels.
Also, I liked drawing manga and exchanging them with my friends.

qbc: Was it like that both before and after you went to the asthma treatment facility?

kiki: It was like that both before and after.
But after, I definitely got rid of the fixed idea that I couldn't do sports. So, when I entered junior high school, I joined a sports club.

qbc: So, in terms of your mindset, you were able to switch gears after leaving the facility.

kiki: I think so. Because, I remember the first day I went there, I was in a mode where I thought I had to pull the blanket up to my shoulders or I'd have an asthma attack. But that first night, when I pulled it up to my shoulders as usual, the teacher said to me, 'It's hot, so you don't need to pull it up to your shoulders, do you?' When I told them, 'I'm doing it because I'll have an asthma attack,' they said, 'You won't have one, so it's okay,' and I took the blanket off my shoulders that day. When I woke up the next morning, I didn't have an asthma attack.

qbc: I see.

kiki: Until then, I might have been controlled mentally, or I might have been doing it to myself.Looking back, I realize there was a part of me that was being controlled.
So, I changed those things one by one. I think that's how my values and such changed.

qbc: What about club activities in junior high school? What did you do?

kiki: In junior high, I joined the track and field team, and in high school, I did gymnastics.
In high school, after quitting gymnastics in my first year, I started working part-time. I ended up enjoying the part-time jobs.
I really did a lot of part-time jobs.Since it was downtown, I worked at places like a chanko hot pot restaurant.
Also, during summer vacation, I did something called 'volubyte,' a combination of volunteer and part-time job. It was an agricultural part-time job in Karuizawa. It was almost volunteer work, but I tried doing things like that. I also worked at the beef bowl chain Matsuya. I also worked at a cake shop. I did various things.

qbc: What did you decide to do after high school?

kiki: When I was in high school, there was a time when the World Cup was co-hosted by Japan and South Korea.
I was a third-year high school student then, and it was time to think about my future path. Until then,I was interested in theater, so I thought working in stage production seemed interesting.

qbc: Ah, so you liked stories. Since you used to draw manga and such.

kiki: That's right.
I wondered if I should go that way. Also, since I have interests in many different places, I thought being a tour conductor or something like that sounded interesting.
While I was thinking about various career paths, the World Cup happened.

qbc: Yes.

kiki: My high school was in Shibuya. So, it was incredibly exciting during the World Cup. While experiencing that, I thought it was amazing that athletes could move and move people all over Japan, even though it was just one sport.
When I looked for a job that could support those people, I found the job of an athletic trainer.
And from there, I just went straight for it.

qbc: How was the job of an athletic trainer?

kiki: In terms of always being a professional, that didn't change from beginning to end.
Even in my first or second year, when I couldn't do anything properly, my mindset was aimed at being a professional. Even when I could do things to a certain extent, started teaching others, and could handle various people, my mindset was still aimed at being a professional. That part didn't change.

qbc: What is a professional? In words.

kiki: Not giving up, for example. Let's say an athlete or a client has a problem. They have a goal, like where it hurts or how they want to be.
Basically, what we do is evaluate and analyze body movements, and since there is a problem in a certain movement, we program how to return to the correct way of moving, provide a menu, and then train the body and correct the course. That was our role.
At such times, we properly assess that. Whether we can correctly judge the movement, or the client's desired state.
There is a gap between the desired state and the current state, but without giving up on that, we are always thinking about how to make it work.
And,it's about properly achieving results together.

qbc: What was the reason you were able to continue for so long?

kiki: It was a very dynamic company. It was a company where you could do all sorts of things.
For example, we would sign contracts with new companies or new teams and dispatch trainers. Or various clients would come to the facilities we managed.
We would create schedules to transform bodies over a one-year term, for instance.
If someone was injured, we would provide training suited to their injury, or if they had a peak event like a match coming up, we could create a schedule aimed at that.
So, in that sense,there was always something to aim for, a goal. There were so many movements like that. It was an environment where I never got bored.

qbc: I see. I felt that your perspective, kiki, often had an analytical, observer-like quality to it. Was that something you learned in the course of your work?
Or was it perhaps when you were looking after your own body due to asthma?

Mirai: I wondered if there was anything more important than this. I wondered if there was anything more important than nurturing life.

qbc: Five years from now, ten years from now. Do you have an image of the future, such as what kind of future you want to create, or what you want to do when you die, or what you want to do before you die?

kiki: When the topic of the future comes up, I actually wonder what to do.
When the topic of the future came up, I think there was a part of me that used to want to say something nice.Like, it's better to say it this way.
But now, honestly, I don't really have any goals, like wanting to be this or wanting to do that. I mean that in a good way.
So, it's difficult to say what I want to do in the future.
However, one thing I can say, and what I've been thinking recently, is thatI really don't want to be trapped by my own values lately. I have a feeling that I want to keep seeing new worlds while properly acknowledging and accepting the values of various people.

qbc: Why did that happen?

kiki: That's how my life has been until now, just that.
It feels like I've only been doing that to prove my own existence.

qbc: That's a strong way of thinking.

kiki: I'm a bit of an annoying person, aren't I?

qbc: No, that's not true at all.

kiki: It feels like I've been driven as if I were being chased, doesn't it? Actually, I've had COVID twice. Isn't that crazy? I had COVID twice.
People I know have been telling me lately, 'Calm down.' They always tell me, 'Haste makes waste.' Every time I consult with an acquaintance, they tell me, 'Your success is still a long way off, so you don't need to be in such a hurry,' every single time.

qbc: Yes, yes, yes.

kiki: But, based on what I've told you so far,I don't like that phrase 'haste makes waste' at all; I think I might even hate it.
I tend to want to rush, and I want to get things quickly.
So, I didn't understand the meaning of that at all.
And when I was changing jobs, I told an acquaintance that it was very painful not to be able to use my experience. At that time, they told me, 'Experience doesn't just disappear.' In my case, they said it's more important who I meet than what I do now. So, while thinking 'I see,' I spent time looking for a workplace, and that is my current workplace.

qbc: Yes.

kiki: As for what I do, the industry is completely different, isn't it? And the way of working too.
So, I wondered if I would really be satisfied with that. My salary became about two-thirds or one-third of what it was before.
But when I tried it, I could actually do it. And when I changed jobs, it felt comfortable. Because of that, I was able to make proper time for my children, which I had been concerned about. I've come to think that this way of living is actually fine for now.
Right now, my values are shifting after experiencing various things, and I'm in the middle of thinking that if I learn about the values of even more people, new doors for me might open up.

qbc: I see.

kiki: So, in that sense, I think the 'Unknown Person Interview' is also interesting.

qbc: Thank you.
So, you don't have any specific things you want to do right now?
Like, wanting to be in Hawaii in five years, for example.

kiki: I don't know about the number of years, but eventually, I want to fly around the world.
I want to go to various countries and listen to the stories of various people.

qbc: Is that with your family?

kiki: By myself. It would be fun if I could make that my life's work.

qbc: What will you do in each place?

kiki: In each place, I want to blend into the lives of the people there.

qbc: You want to live there? Is any kind of work okay?

kiki: That's right.I want to blend into their lives and get a glimpse of their life stories.You know, you can connect with all sorts of people on social media, right?
There are Facebook groups for Japanese people raising children abroad. When I listen to their stories, I think about being there—not exactly an interview, but...I had a vague idea of listening to their stories and recording them for others to read.
I really like writing. I used to write novels, after all.

qbc: I see.

kiki: You mentioned analysis earlier, and now that you say it, it's true thatI really love having experiences and then reflecting on them or putting them into words in my own way.

qbc: Even without me asking, you naturally talk about cause and effect, don't you?
For example, you think you changed because of childbirth. You've had three jobs, and you explain how this job was like this, and that job was like that.
It shows you're someone who has thought about these things.
Especially, I suppose, the asthma you had as a child. The analysis of cause and effect you learned through the process of observing your own body and figuring out how to live with it.
Also, right. You mentioned that you changed after giving birth. How exactly did you change?

kiki: When I was carrying my child, I felt that there was nothing more important than this.

qbc: Was that after you quit being an athletic trainer?

kiki: It was while I was working as a trainer. I was teaching training while pregnant and while having a child.
You can't see them yet when they are in your womb. When you go to the hospital, you can hear their heartbeat or feel them kicking. They are mysterious beings, and I didn't know their face or voice yet. But I was thinking about them.
I wondered if there was anything more important than this. If there was anything more important than nurturing life.
After actually giving birth and raising the child, it is of course difficult, but as I felt since pregnancy, nurturing a person, nurturing life, and nurturing love—it might sound like a platitude, but I really don't think there is anything more important than this.

qbc: Why did you quit your job as an athletic trainer?

kiki:I felt that I wouldn't be able to meet the company's expectations anymore.
You want to meet them, right? I intend to meet them. But if I do that, something is bound to suffer. I don't know if it would be my health or my child.
Anyone can replace me at work, but only I could be a mother to my child. So, I thought it was better to have someone who could meet those expectations do the job.

qbc: Which do you think is better, before or after childbirth?

kiki: After childbirth. You definitely grow more after giving birth.
I did, anyway. As a person, that is.
I really became able to accept so many things.
There are more things that I just have to let go of by saying, 'It can't be helped.'

qbc: Regarding your child?

kiki: That's right, regarding my child. But when you are in that state, it starts to apply to those around you as well.
Until now, when I was single or just married, I could be self-indulgent in a way. I had plenty of time for myself, I could work and work and work, then think, 'Oh, I'm tired, I'll go home and sleep,' or eat whatever I wanted. I only had to think about myself, but now my habits have changed to having to think about someone other than just myself. Like schedules.
Also, when buying things, I think about my child's health instead of just my own. I think my way of thinking has changed in many ways.
And so,repeating the act of spending something for the sake of someone other than myself has also led to my own growth.I don't get rattled easily anymore.

qbc: I see.

kiki: Things that I would have called a 'major problem' at the company before, I now think in my heart, 'Is it really a major problem?' There is growth in that sense.
It's not like anyone's life is being taken, so I think, 'Isn't that a bit dramatic?'
I think that kind of generosity has emerged.

qbc: I am asking a question about a hypothetical future.
What if you didn't have asthma? If those two years hadn't happened, what do you think would have happened?

kiki:I might not have been able to think about other people's feelings very much.
I was hospitalized, and there were other children I met there.
You know, you interact with the nurses and doctors in the pediatric ward during a normal hospital stay.
Asthma is really painful, it truly is. When an attack happens, it's painful and you can't sleep, so you have to stay awake all night. Having felt that kind of pain as a child, I think I became able to unconsciously read the feelings of people who are in pain around me.
I think the ability to feel people's kindness and the feelings of those who are suffering was really nurtured in me as a child.
If that hadn't happened, I don't think I would have been able to think about people's feelings so deeply.

qbc: Ah, I see. So perhaps that's where your analytical and insight skills were born.

kiki: Now that I think about it, that's true. Maybe they are connected.

qbc: What about your emotions in the future? What kind of emotions would you like to have?

kiki: A bright feeling would be nice. Like sparkling. I want a brilliant future.

qbc: Brilliant when seen by others?

kiki: No, I want the brilliance that I carve out myself.

qbc: Your own brilliance isn't clouded right now, is it?

kiki: Not at all.

qbc: A new kind of brilliance?

kiki: That's right.When you see a new world, it sparkles, doesn't it?
It feels like it's sparkling, so I want that kind of brilliance that comes from carving out a path.

qbc: What do people often say about you, kiki-san?

kiki: People often tell me that I'm interesting.

qbc: Oh, so it's "interesting" rather than "bright" or "energetic"?

kiki: I'm often told that I'm "crisp and clear" (energetic/decisive).

qbc: I see. Well, lastly, if there is anything you have left to say, I'd like to hear it.

kiki: I'm looking forward to the article being finished. Also, what I like about reading interview articles is the part that's like qbc's analysis.
It appears at the beginning and the end, right?

qbc: Ah, when I conduct the interview, it's at the beginning and the end, and when I'm not the interviewer, it's only at the beginning.

kiki: I sometimes feel satisfied just with that. I read the article too, and I think, "I see."
I always find that part fun, so I'm looking forward to that.

qbc: Thank you very much.

Afterword

How did you find this edition of the Anonymous Interview? Please feel free to leave your thoughts in the comments. Yes. I think this interview covered quite a variety of themes. Asthma, goal-oriented work, childbirth, analytical skills. But I suppose childbirth was the biggest one. Giving birth to a child gives a woman a sense of mystery, or perhaps it's that physical changes bring about major changes in human consciousness. I also had cataract surgery on my left eye, and while I wouldn't say it changed my outlook on life, my senses definitely changed a bit. In that case, maybe tongue piercings and tattoos are the same thing. Or even spread tans, for that matter. Or perhaps body modification itself is just that. Rediscovering a new self within the extraordinary. Giving oneself new meaning. Feeling both mentally and physically at ease and saved. I have no idea where this conversation is going. Just kidding. It's fine, I understand. It's about how extraordinary physical stimulation is essential for rites of passage and mystical experiences. Initiation. I was reminded once again that this is a person who is steadily acquiring a new self through experiences like asthma, work related to the body, and childbirth. Well, there are times when the mind and body can't keep up, I suppose. Like when the body has already gone through the experience, but the mind hasn't fully processed it yet. Hahaha. See you tomorrow!

Interviewer: qbc

Editorial Cooperation: Arishima

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