People who want to live a life where they can cheer others up and help them by living happily themselves

I do these things called 'Unknown Person Interviews,' and sometimes I think that the theme of these interviews is actually other people.
I started out with the intention of wanting to understand humanity, but I realized, isn't this actually about wanting to understand other people? Well, some might say that by understanding others, you end up understanding yourself, so the real goal is self-discovery, but regardless, I think I want to understand 'others'—people who are clearly visible—rather than the vague concept of 'humanity'.
Others are, you know, more concrete than just 'humanity'.
For example, someone walking toward me on the street is an 'other.' But if that person is sleeping at home and is outside my field of vision, they aren't an 'other'—they are just a human.
A classmate I only know by name and have barely spoken to is also an 'other'.
My younger brother, whom I'm with but haven't really talked to much, might also be an 'other'.
I think there are surprisingly many of these 'others' out there.
Are we going to live our whole lives knowing these people only halfway, and never really understanding them? I find that feeling quite terrifying.
It's scary, somehow.
And so, Unknown Person GO!!!!!!!
[Foreword: qbc / Yasuhiro Kuribayashi (Organizer of Unknown Person Interviews)]

Joining us this time is saki!

Present: Staying in a painful place—well, 'staying' might not be the right word, but it's one way of living—but if I stay there, I feel like I'm just going in circles, so I'm thinking of looking at something a bit different or trying various things.

qbc: What do you do for a living right now?

saki: Right now, I'm a company employee, working as a Web Director at a small startup.

qbc: How long have you been doing that?

saki: About two and a half years, I guess. About two and a half years. This is my second company, yes. I've been at this company for about two and a half years.

qbc: Was your previous job also as a director?

saki: My previous job was as an engineer. I worked as an engineer for about a year, so yes, this is my fourth year in the workforce.

qbc: A web engineer?

saki: Yes, that's right.

qbc: I see. What do you do outside of work?

saki: Outside of work, well, I do various things, but actually, I once had a time when my mental health wasn't great, so I became interested in knowing myself and understanding my own mind. I've been learning yoga philosophy, and also, well, learning about my own consciousness, and I've also been studying astrology and divination, and various other things. I like music—or rather, I'm interested in expression and self-expression—so I've been taught about music and expression by people who do music. I think I'm doing quite a wide variety of things.

qbc: How do you feel when you're working?

saki: Let's see, how do I feel? Hmm, I don't know. Sometimes I think it's a bit tough, or, well, what else. It's tough, it's a hassle, but I like the people I work with, and I'm happy to be able to work with them—something like that, I suppose.

qbc: Does that mean being an engineer was tough?

saki: Yes, being an engineer was quite tough at that time.

qbc: Both the engineer and web director roles are in the same industry, right?

saki: The industry is the same, yes. Yes, it's the same industry.

qbc: Did you take a leave of absence while you were working as an engineer?

saki: I wasn't on leave when I was an engineer, but it was tough, so I changed jobs to my current company. I thought changing the environment might help my health recover, but it actually got worse. So, after I quit being an engineer and became a director, I took a leave of absence for about 8 months, and then I returned to work. Yes. It's been about a year and a half now, right? It feels like I've been working for a little over a year since I returned.

qbc: Then, getting back to work, is it still tough for you now?

saki: Work isn't particularly tough. At least for now, yes.

qbc: So, you've stabilized since returning to work?

saki: Yes, I think so.

qbc: What do you think helped?

saki: Hmm, I wonder. What was it? What helped? First, the base of it—right before I took leave, I was having hyperventilation and my health was just generally in a terrible state. By taking those 8 months to do nothing, to step away from work and have that blank space, I think my baseline health improved little by little with the help of medication.
Yes, I mean, having time to rest and medical care, like medication, and also getting counseling little by little to approach my way of thinking and such.Yes.
Since my previous company was a bit of a source of trauma, I spent about a year after quitting taking my time to talk to various people and writing down how I felt to organize my thoughts, which helped it fade away. Also, I was someone who was only about work, but I was told by my boss that hobbies are important too,
so instead of doing things just because I liked them, I tried various things to expand my hobbies, and it was surprisingly interesting. I found various things outside of work that were fun or served as a change of pace.
With all those factors, I recovered little by little. Yes, when I returned to work a year ago, I was barely able to, thinking I just had to try, but over this past year, I feel like I'm doing relatively well.

qbc: What was it like when your health was bad?

saki: Oh, it was really, really bad. I don't know. Hmm, it's difficult. My health was bad, though it depended on the time.
First, it didn't fit me or the level was a bit too high, so I thought I might not be able to do my best there and changed jobs. But right after changing jobs, I really felt traumatized. Work, the IT industry, and even working with people became a source of trauma..
So, even though the surrounding environment changed, I used a communication tool called Slack at my previous company, and I use Slack at my current company too. It was like the moment I used Slack, those unpleasant feelings would come rushing back.
I would tear up when looking at Slack, or I felt like I couldn't even open it. And, I would get stomach aches when working hard. Well, like I said before, I had hyperventilation, and even if I took a break, if things got bad, I would have hyperventilation.
Yes. Also, I couldn't sleep at all. I was afraid to sleep. I would only finally lose consciousness when morning came.That's what it was like.

qbc: At that time, did you simply resign from your previous job?

saki: I resigned from my previous job. I quit like a job change. It wasn't a leave of absence; I quit and then joined my current company.

qbc: I'd also like to ask what you've been doing, like when you started and what you started with.

saki: When I started and what I started, do you mean what I'm doing now?

qbc: I thought you must have felt you had to do something to get out of that state. I was wondering when you started that and what kind of things you started with.

saki: It was like I did everything I could think of.Right after I took leave, I went to the hospital, but I don't know. My health was bad, so it wasn't just psychological; I was worried that there might be a physical problem, so I went to a lot of hospitals, visiting 6 or 7 different places.

qbc: What departments did you go to?

saki: Psychosomatic medicine, neurology, and I don't remember exactly what it was like at the time, but I felt nauseous, so I went to gastroenterology, yes, I did.

qbc: These were actions taken after you went on leave?

saki: Yes, after I went on leave. Yes, so before I went on leave, I wasn't paying attention to my health at all, or rather, it was painful but I felt like I was still okay, and well, I went to the psychosomatic clinic when things got bad, but I really started paying attention to my body after I went on leave.
Yeah, after I went on leave, I didn't feel like "It's okay, I can do this," but rather "No, I really can't do this anymore," and from there, I started taking actions in my own way at that time.

qbc: Besides going to the hospital, what else did you do?

saki: After that, I went to the hospital, read books, and read things like mental health books. I also used an app, like an online counseling service, where I could chat or talk on the phone.
Also, I joined an online salon where you learn about yourself and learn to cherish yourself, and I really clicked with someone who was posting on Instagram at the time, so I joined the online salon because I wanted to engage more with what they were sharing. It was an online salon with the concept of having time to take care of yourself—not exactly self-analysis, but something similar—together with other people who were also drawn to that person, so I joined that.
Also, let's see. What else did I do? I talked to friends, yeah, I had friends listen to me quite a bit, and I also talked to my parents. That's what it was like from the time I was struggling until I recovered. And I also wrote quite a bit; I would write down my feelings in a diary, like what was painful and what I really wanted to do.

qbc: Was this also the period when you were introduced to yoga, fortune-telling, and music?

saki: No, that was a little later. Like, that going from minus 100 to zero was the hospital visits and writing in my notebook. Once I felt a bit better after that, I was able to do things that were a bit more positive or active, like yoga, fortune-telling, cooking, and music, so yeah, that's how I started doing those things.

qbc: Roughly speaking, how long did it take to get back from minus to zero?

saki: Hmm, I wonder how long. It felt quite long to me. But I'm not sure where the minus started, but yeah, let me see, let me calculate. Hmm. Hmm, maybe about two full years? Maybe a little longer.

qbc: Was it a year and a half since you returned to work?

saki: Right now, it's been about a year and three months since I returned to work.

qbc: Oh, I see. Do you feel like you're at zero now?

saki: I think I'm quite in the plus now.

qbc: Sorry, when did you return to work?

saki: I returned to work in October the year before last.

qbc: So, October 2022.

saki: October, yes.

qbc: When you say it took about two full years, when was the zero point? When did you reach zero? Around what month and year?

saki: Zero was probably a little while after I returned to work.

qbc: Then shall we say November?

saki: Yes, yes.

qbc: I see, understood. Was it around that time that you started doing other hobby-like things? Is that what you did?

saki: That's right. I think the leave of absence and the time before the leave when I was feeling unwell were pretty much the time from minus to zero.

qbc: What was your source of information for finding hospitals indiscriminately like that?

saki: You looked it up, didn't you? On the internet.

qbc: After you hit rock bottom, how did you figure out that you should try doing something like a hobby?

saki: How did I figure out I should do it, huh? Why. Are you asking about the reason why I felt like doing something more active, rather than just going to the hospital or something, to get from negative back to zero?

qbc: Yes. Did you look it up, or did your body crave it on its own? That kind of thing.

saki: I wonder. That's right. Before I went on leave, when I told my boss that I was feeling a bit down, they gave me some advice. They said that if I only focus on work or can't switch off properly, I'll just keep feeling down, so if I can't change my mood well, it would be good to have a hobby or something I can enjoy outside of work. And, let's see, why else...
Well, even before I went on leave or started feeling unwell, I had some opportunities to think about myself and face who I am, and at that time, I realized that if you're just trying to get from negative to zero, well, how should I put it,
if you try to go from negative to zero without having a goal or something you like, you don't know which direction to go. So, even if you manage to get back to zero, you end up slipping back into the negative because you don't have a direction. I was told something like that. I probably remembered that somewhere in the back of my mind, or understood it through experience, and when I saw various information, it really resonated with me. I think the period of getting from negative to zero is important, but once I reached a point where I could at least move around or think clearly, rather than just staying in that phase, I felt like I wanted to find things I wanted to do.
That's right, back when I was a student, I liked going abroad and talking to all sorts of people, and, well, staying in a painful place—well, calling it 'staying' might be a bit much—is one way of living, but if I just stayed there, I felt like I would just be going in circles. So, I felt like I should try looking at different things or try doing various activities. That's how I felt.

qbc: What kind of hobbies do you have currently?

saki: My current hobbies are, well, I think I like getting to know myself, and, well, I like studying things that aren't visible to the eye—like my heart, or what I believe in, what kind of assumptions I have, and why I'm getting these results. I think I quite enjoy learning about those things and getting to know myself.

qbc: What is your hottest topic right now? In the process of getting to know yourself, I imagine there are various tools you use.

saki: Indeed, there are many tools. There are many tools, and for me, there was a self-development workshop I took when I was a student, and I've been studying it again recently. I think facing myself and noticing my emotions in that context is what's hot for me right now.

qbc: What do people around you say your personality is like?

saki: My personality? I wonder what they'd say. Well, that I'm serious but have a strong core. Also, that I'm a bit stubborn, what else... that I'm quiet and calm, and perhaps better at listening to others. Something like that. That I seem to be doing all sorts of things. Something like that.

qbc: What do you think your personality is like?

saki: For myself, I wonder, but I might have a strong will. I want to do the things I've decided on or the things I want to do. Sometimes I think I'm inflexible, or that I have a difficult personality, or that it might be hard to live with my personality, my personality, yes. Hmm. Well, also, I think I'm quite emotionally rich.

qbc: Is there a personality trait that people close to you—family, partners, best friends—people who are closer to your private life, point out? Something that you or people around you might not notice easily, but because they are close to you, they mention it?

saki: Someone once told me I was strict. Like, strict with myself and others.

qbc: I see.

saki: Yes, that's something I wasn't really aware of. I mean, I might have been strict, and I thought I was becoming less so, but, well, I guess so. That kind of thing happens.

qbc: Tell me about a fun event recently that made you want to post on social media. If we lived in a world where bragging was allowed, what is a 'mount' episode you would have shared?

saki: A 'mount' episode? That's difficult.

qbc: It doesn't have to be that strong. Just something you'd want to tell people, like 'I did it!'.

saki: Earlier, I mentioned that I'm taking music lessons, and there, I also do things like songwriting, and I think I managed to create a song that I personally think is really good.

qbc: What kind of atmosphere did the song have?

saki: Atmosphere? It had a very peaceful feel. It's a song that's kind of like wishing for world peace.

qbc: Did you make the music on a PC? Or on a smartphone?

saki: No, it was improvised. I had someone play the guitar while I sang along, so it's an analog song that wasn't made digitally.

qbc: Do you give instructions like, 'play it like this'?

saki: Yes, I can do that. If there's something specific, the person teaching me will play it, but I usually just give vague requests like 'could you make it a bit slower,' and when I tried singing to that, I felt like I had created a song that I personally really like, or rather, a good song.

qbc: Did you give it a title?

saki: It doesn't have a title, but the content is themed around the sea and the sky, and from there, well, how should I put it? It's a song about transcending borders and the feeling that everyone in the world is connected.

Past: Through romantic relationships and traveling to various countries, which connects to what I'm doing now, I felt like I wanted to know myself better, so I took time for self-analysis and thinking about myself, and I feel like my understanding of myself has expanded a bit.

qbc: I'd like to ask a little about your past. What kind of child were you?

saki: What was I like as a child? I think I was quite quiet and like an honor student.

qbc: What kind of games did you like, or what is your oldest memory of playing, perhaps from kindergarten?

saki: Well, I liked everything we did in kindergarten. I liked picture books, playing shopkeeper, clay, and singing. I felt like I liked everything, but I think I preferred quietly focusing and working on things by myself rather than playing noisily with everyone else.

qbc: What did you do at home?

saki: What did I do at home? When I was little, at home... well, I watched anime, and once I was in elementary school, I would go to friends' houses or play outside. Also, I was allowed to take various lessons, so I would go to those here and there.

qbc: What kind of lessons did you take?

saki: Swimming, for example. The ones I did for a long time were swimming and calligraphy. Besides that, I dabbled in things like flower arrangement, cooking, and sewing, and I also did a little bit of piano.

qbc: Was that in elementary school?

saki: Probably around elementary or middle school.

qbc: What kind of child were you in elementary school?

saki: It was a very small elementary school, with about 80 students in total from first to sixth grade, and only one class per grade. It was in the countryside surrounded by nature, and I feel like it was quite a comfortable place to spend time.

qbc: What kind of child were you?

saki: I wonder what kind of child I was. Well, let's see. I feel like I was a child who was half-and-half, enjoying being a kid while also trying hard to live up to the expectations of adults.I feel like I was a child who was half-and-half, enjoying being a kid while also trying hard to live up to the expectations of adults.

qbc: How about junior high school?

saki: In junior high, the number of students increased a bit, to about three classes per grade. I joined the brass band, but it wasn't a very intense place. I feel like it was more about chatting loosely, practicing my instrument a little, and doing a decent amount of studying.

qbc: How about your high school days?

saki: In high school, I continued with the brass band, but I joined a place where the practice was quite strict, and that was really tough. Well, I liked studying, so I did that, but it felt like I was using almost all my time and energy on club activities. Even so, I couldn't improve as much as I wanted, and the human relationships—or should I call them that—were a bit bad, or there was some friction. Rather than having a lot of fun or feeling a sense of achievement, I felt more confused or distressed, and I think those feelings were greater for me.

qbc: What are some painful memories you have from up until high school?

saki: Painful memories up until high school. Well, in my high school brass band, I was the section leader for the flute, which is a prominent instrument that plays high notes. When we were all practicing together in an ensemble, I was right in front of the teacher, and as the section leader, my sound was easy to hear. But I couldn't play well, and I would get scolded severely right in front of everyone every day. Also, when people in my section quit, I don't remember it well, but I feel like I was crying a lot, even at home in my bed.
That was really painful. I loved the instrument, but I couldn't play it the way I wanted at all, and it felt like I was suffering, so I think it was quite painful.

qbc: Were there people you could talk to at that time?

saki: No, when it was really tough, I told my friends in the club, but basically, it would just turn into something like, 'Let's do our best and stay positive.' I didn't feel like talking to my parents, and I didn't feel like talking to friends outside the club either.
When it was really tough, I told the kids in the club, but at other times, I would just tell myself to look forward, and yes, it was like that.

qbc: How do you think you were raised by your family?

saki: How was I raised? Well, my mother was extremely anxious and would say various things and get involved, while my father earned money outside and worked at a company but didn't interfere that much. I wonder how I was raised.
I think I was loved, but looking back now, I wonder. Regarding my upbringing, especially during junior high and high school, I think I really hated my parents because I felt like I wasn't getting the love I wanted, which was like a rebellious phase.

qbc: What kind of love did you want?

saki: I wanted them to look at me first and foremost and support what I wanted to do. That's what I expected at the time.But I have three siblings, and I'm the oldest, and the two below me are five or six years younger and born in consecutive years.
Because of that, I felt like they were only looking at my younger sister and brother and not at me, and since my parents were quite anxious, even if I said I wanted to play an instrument or work hard at the flute, they would say, 'Stop it, stop it because I'm worried.' Instead of supporting me, they would stop me, so it was like that.Yes, it was like that.

qbc: What do you mean by them telling you to stop playing the flute? I don't think it's the same as getting a motorcycle license.

saki: Ah, well, I don't know. Since I said that high school had a very strict club, they said it was fine to go to that high school, but regarding the club activities, they would say, 'Isn't it too much for your physical strength?'

qbc: I see, I see.

saki: It was that kind of worry.

qbc: I see. So, what path did you decide to take for your education after high school?

saki: I didn't have much money, so at first I wanted to go to a national university. But, after retiring from my club activities in the summer, the study period I had left wasn't enough for my planning and study methods to catch up. In the end, I decided to go to a private women's university and major in science.

qbc: How was your time in college?

saki: My college years were... well, there were a lot of things. It was fun, I guess. It was fun, but a lot happened.

qbc: What happened?

saki: What happened? I guess you could say my world expanded. The world I was looking at grew wider.That's right. I joined a student organization that wasn't just for my own university, but one where students from many different universities came together. I really interacted with all kinds of people, and it expanded my perspective, making me realize that there are worlds like this and people like this out there.
After that, I took a leave of absence to go around the world. I realized there are so many different worlds out there—different countries, different... what should I say? Physical development is one thing, and poverty and inequality are others, but also the mindset and stance of the people living within those conditions. That kind of diversity, too. I saw the world, and I went around the world on a ship. There were about a thousand people on the ship, almost all Japanese, and talking to so many different people there made me realize that there are all these different ways of living. It really expanded my horizons.
Also, I fell in love and dated people. I felt happy and had fun. But at the time, my self-esteem was really low, and things didn't go very well. That might be a different kind of expansion, but my world definitely grew, and I realized so many things. Yes, that's right.
Through those relationships and visiting various countries—which connects to what I'm doing now—I felt like I wanted to know myself better. I took time for self-analysis and thinking about myself, and I feel like my understanding of myself also expanded. I feel like my world expanded in many ways during my college years.

qbc: You mean something like Peace Boat?

saki: Yes, exactly.

qbc: How many months was it?

saki: It was three months. It was a winter cruise, and I went for three months from New Year's until around March.

qbc: What kind of club were you in?

saki: I'm not sure what to call it. I was in a student organization, and I was supporting people who were going abroad, things like that. Yeah. Yes.

qbc: How did you go about choosing your job?

saki: For employment, let's see. How did I choose it? I came back from Peace Boat, and it was like, 'Okay, it's time for job hunting, I'm a senior now.' I really liked people and thought people were interesting, so the first place I got a job offer from was a funeral home.

qbc: A funeral home, like for funerals?

saki: Yes. I got an offer from a funeral company, and I was drawn to the idea of creating a space for a funeral that was unique to that person, allowing people to savor those final moments. I was planning to join that company. I mean, I thought I was.
I thought so, but I got that offer around July. At university, I was studying IT and making games with VR, and so... While I was still interested in people, I also wanted to test my own abilities, or rather, I wanted to improve myself and take on challenges as I continued my studies. Yes. So, I started job hunting again in the fall of my senior year. At that time, I was looking at the IT industry, and after going through several interviews, I finally joined that IT company as an engineer.

qbc: You're on leave from the company you joined, but did you get a final diagnosis?

saki: What was the diagnosis? Somatoform disorder.I think so. Probably, yes.Somatoform disorder and depressive state.Something like that, I think.

qbc: I see. What kind of medicine did you get?

saki: I'm still taking it, actually. Let's see, I'm taking medicine to suppress excitement and medicine to alleviate the depressive state.

qbc: Is it like a dose of medicine?

saki: It's not a dose, it's every night, although I skip it sometimes. But generally, it's every night.

Mirai: I want to live happily in the first place, and if I live happily, maybe I'll have more to give to others.

qbc: Thank you. I'd like to ask about the future. When you look ahead to 5, 10, 30, or 40 years from now, what kind of future do you envision?

saki: Well, honestly, I'm not sure yet, but I think,I want to live happily, and by living happily, I want to become the kind of person or live in a way that can cheer others up or be of help to them.

qbc: So, you become happy yourself, and others become happy too.

saki: Yeah, that's right.

qbc: Why is that?

saki: Why is it, I wonder?

qbc: It seems like a fairly clear image. When did you start thinking that way? Did you just come up with it because you said it now?

saki: No, I don't remember when, but,there was a time about a year or half a year ago when what I just said really clicked for me.And the reason is, why is it...
In the first place, I think I've always been really drawn to those kinds of people. I've been drawn to them, and I've been helped and saved by them. When I'm having a hard time, or even when I'm not and just spacing out, when I meet people like that, or see people living that way, I'm really drawn to them. When I see or interact with people who live in their own authentic way, I feel really drawn to them.And also, well...
From high school to college, I think I had a strong mindset of,doing things for others—maybe even as a working adult—but as a result, I would end up breaking down. I would expect too much from others, feel betrayed on my own, and end up hating them, which happened a lot.So, I thought that maybe just making that my only axis doesn't suit me. When I thought about that, I realized,
I want to live happily in the first place, and if I live happily, maybe I'll have more to give to others.
So, I want to live happily first, cherish myself, and not just stop there, but hopefully be able to give something to others or cheer them up as well.

qbc: You mentioned earlier that you weren't paying attention to your physical condition. Why weren't you paying attention to your health?

saki: Why was it? Well,being healthy was taken for granted, and I always thought I wouldn't collapse from something like this and that I could still do more.But, I don't know,maybe there was also this idea that I had to value others more than myself, or that I had to give more to others.

qbc: What do you think 'being yourself' means?

saki: Oh, that's difficult. 'Being yourself,' huh? I don't know. Yeah, what could it be? I don't know. I really don't know.Maybe it's being emotionally rich, thinking and feeling many things, sometimes stopping in your tracks, but still trying to move forward again.

qbc: Where is 'forward'?

saki: Where is it, I wonder? What is it? Where is 'forward'? That's difficult. Yeah.

qbc: Where is 'forward' for you right now? Like, what are you aiming for?

saki: Well, but,I suppose it's the direction where both I and everyone else can be happy.

qbc: I'm asking a 'what if' question about the future: if you had received the love you wanted from your parents during your middle and high school years, what kind of person do you think you would have become?

saki: That's difficult. Yeah. Hmm.I was happy, but I think I had become a person with a narrow range or depth of emotion—maybe not to the point of having no depth, but it was limited.

qbc: What kind of emotions did you discover at that time?

saki: I discovered a lot at that time, but well,I think I learned about sadness, loneliness, pain, and various kinds of darkness.

qbc: Is there anything you want to do most right now?

saki: What I want to do most. I wonder. I'm still a work in progress myself, but somehow,I want to support people who are like my past self. I want to do it in a way that is fun for me too.

qbc: Do you also want to be supported yourself?

saki: I do. I really do.

qbc: What do you think would happen if you were supported? Try to imagine it.

saki: Oh, if I were supported by someone?

qbc: What would you be able to do?

saki: What would I be able to do. Well, I am actually quite supported, I'm already being supported, but because of that, it's like... a sense of kindness is born. A feeling that I'm not alone, or a feeling that I'm connected to everyone.As for what I would be able to do,my courage would increase. To try something, or to achieve something.

qbc: Thank you. The last question is, as a final word you'd like to leave behind—it could be like a real last will and testament, or a monologue reflecting on the interview, or a message to the readers. I'd like to ask if you have any final words.

saki: That's difficult. I was nervous, but it was surprisingly fun—it might be rude to say 'surprisingly,' but I really think it was fun, so thank you. And let's see. What is it. No, but I also, in the past, or rather, I don't know,I think my past was really painful.But somehow, what is it.
I don't know, but I think you can get out of a world that is only painful or full of despair, and I'm also trying to move forward while feeling various things, so if there's anyone like that, I'd like to do my best together with them.That's all.

qbc: Thank you.

saki: Yes. Thank you.

Afterword

If the people who receive the Nameless Interview are happy and having fun, it might take time, but if we increase the number of interviewers and conduct one interview every day, wouldn't everyone in the world become happy?

[Interview/Editing/Afterword: qbc]

[Editing: Honshu]

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