Rolling up pee pads with their nose | Is it instinct or the result of learning?
J-Papa🍓:
My dog Riku, a 4-year-old male Black Lab, almost every time he does his business on the pee pad I've set in place, uses his nose to roll up the pad and hide the soiled part.
When I catch him in the middle of this rolling behavior, I step in and say, 'It's okay! Leave it to me!' and clean it up for him. Perhaps because I then say, 'Good boy, thank you!' and pet his head or back, he might feel that this is a 'job well done' situation.
I want to know if he is observing and imitating my usual behavior, or if it is an instinctive action.
ChatGPT📚:
Riku's behavior of 'trying to hide the pad by rolling it up with his nose' is,
**in conclusion, likely a 'complex behavior resulting from a combination of instinct and learning (the owner's intervention pattern).'**
I will explain this carefully based on what is scientifically understood below.
■1. Instinctive elements (very significant)
Dogs naturally have ahabit of avoiding the scent of their waste, which could reveal their location to predators or other animals.there is.
In the wild,
hiding waste with soil
or kicking sand or fallen leaves over it with their hind legs are examples of 'concealment behavior.'
This habit remains, albeit faintly, even in hunting breeds like Labradors.
Riku's behavior of
'rolling up the soiled part with his nose to hide it'
is very similar to this concealment behavior.
Also, manipulating objects with the nose is a natural and stress-free behavior for dogs, so it is easily triggered by instinct.
■2. Learning (your response has become a 'reward')
If you, the owner, continue to provide
the 'It's okay! Leave it to me!' voice
and the subsequent gentle petting and praise,
Riku may have learned the following:
● 'Roll it up → Owner comes → I get praised'
This is a "positive reinforcement" cycle.
For a dog,
praise
the owner coming over
and being touched (social rewards)
are all big rewards.
Therefore, the behavior may be maintained or become more frequent.
■3. The possibility of imitating the owner is "low but not zero"
Dogs have a certain ability to "imitate" human behavior, but
the possibility of them imitating the act of cleaning up waste is low.
However,
the owner comes over and starts cleaning up
if I roll it up, the owner reacts
—there is a possibility that they recognize this as a "continuous sequence."
In other words, rather than direct imitation, it is more strongly a case of associative learning where
"doing this action leads to good things happening."
■4. Summary of the meaning of the behavior...
Riku-kun is likely acting based on the following psychology:
●Instinct
"I'm bothered by the waste → I want to hide it"
●Learning
"If I try to hide it, the owner gets happy → I'll do it more"
Both are natural for a dog and are not considered problem behaviors.
■5. How should you respond as an owner?
If you are not troubled by the current situation,
it is fine to just gently talk to him and clean it up.
However, please also consider the following:
If you are bothered by the sheet being messed up too much
→ Collect it immediately after excretion so he cannot perform the "rolling action"If the rolling action seems to be becoming fun and turning into a game
→ Refrain from praising him when cleaning up and respond calmlyIf you want to praise him, switch to "immediately after excretion"
→ Associate the reward with "excreting in the right place" rather than the hiding action
■6. By the way, this also fits the characteristics of a Black Lab
Labradors have:
A strong response to social rewards (they want to be praised)
A preference for working together with their owner
A love for carrying or manipulating things
These traits mean that the current "hiding + owner comes over = happy" scenario matches perfectly with "typical Black Lab" behavioral tendencies.
■Summary
Riku-kun's behavior is a natural and healthy combination of the "instinct to hide" and the "learning that he will be praised by his owner."
If you would like, please tell me about Riku-kun's expression or demeanor after he rolls it up (e.g., looking proud, expectant), and I can provide more specific interpretations and advice.
J-Papa🍓:
If anything, he might be "looking proud." But interestingly, when my wife does the same thing I do, he growls to express his displeasure and tries to stop her from cleaning it up. Also, when I come home from shopping and try to take things out of the large shopping bag (my bag) to put them away, he growls at my wife to try and stop her.
ChatGPT📚:
That is a very interesting behavior.
What can be read from this is "Riku-kun strongly recognizes the 'division of labor' with you." And because that role has become "special" within your relationship, it is highly likely that when your wife (the missus) does the same thing, the feeling of
"That's my job and my master's job! Don't touch it!" comes out, leading to the growling.
I will organize this in detail below.
■1. Why does he look "proud" with you, but "growl" at your wife?
Dogs perceive the quality of their 'roles' and 'relationships' differently for each person in the family.
For Riku-kun
● You:
The person who comes after he eliminates
The person who cleans it up
The person who praises him
The partner who shares the same 'ritual'
→ 'This routine is a joint task between you and me'
● Your wife:
Someone who does not usually participate in that ritual
He feels like she has barged into their 'joint task'
→ 'Hey, stop that! That is my (and your) territory!'
It seems that this is the dynamic being created.
■2. Growling is 'territorial awareness' + 'role awareness' + 'bias in affinity relationships'
This behavior is different from aggression; it is closer to the psychology of
'not wanting to have an important action taken away'.
The points are the following three:
●① Role awareness (a mild form of resource guarding)
The mindset of 'This action is my job!' and 'Don't steal it from me!'
Not just food and toys, but
'actions and routines themselves' can also become resources.
●② A 'special pair relationship' with you
Even if a dog has multiple family members, they may choose one person as their 'especially important partner'.
Actions performed with that person create a special sense of ownership.
●③ Growling at your wife is not about 'wanting to be scolded or excluded'
Rather than anger
Confusion
Impatience
"Leave this to me!"
It is highly likely that this is an expression of these feelings.
■3. Reasons for growling even when "taking items out of shopping bags"
This is a very interesting coincidence.
The wife taking items out of a large bag → growling
is a case where the dog often feels like things are being "taken away or interfered with."
Possibilities include:
●Pattern 1: Being wary of the wife's "taking out" motion
Dogs are sensitive to "hand movements that take things away."
●Pattern 2: Thinking that the items in the house are "their own territory"
A shopping bag is a symbol of "goods returning home."
Because the wife "putting them away" means they disappear from the area the dog is guarding,
it is possible that their sense of ownership or desire to monitor is being stimulated.
●Pattern 3: There is a past minor anxious experience regarding contact scenarios with the wife
Even with just a trivial event,
associative learning that "that action = an unpleasant feeling" can be formed.
■4. What you can do now to prevent this from developing into problem behavior
At this stage, it is a "mild resource guarding tendency."
Dealing with it is relatively easy.
●<Countermeasure 1> When your wife is putting things away, you should intervene casually
For example:
Your wife approaches the sheet
You lightly call Riku-kun, pet him, or give him a treat
The wife cleans it up in the meantime
By repeating this, it switches to learning that
“the wife cleaning up = something good happens”
occurs.
● <Countermeasure 2> Have the wife participate in 'low-stimulation mode'
At first,
keep a distance from Riku and watch over him
give a reward just for approaching a little
eventually have her handle just a part of the cleanup
A step-by-step approach (counter-conditioning) like this is effective.
● <Countermeasure 3> Never scold him
Growling is a warning signal, so if you scold him,
it can lead to dangerous learning such as “hiding the growl → biting suddenly.”
● <Countermeasure 4> The same method for shopping bags
The wife touches the bag
→ You “distract Riku in a good direction”
→ The wife does the work
→ Gradually get him used to it
It can be improved with this.
■ 5. Summary (Important Points)
Riku's behavior is strongly rooted in a sense of “role with you”
As for the wife? → He feels that “sacred joint task” is being interrupted and growls
It is not aggression, but a desire to protect his role and routine
Shopping bags are also a mild form of the same “resource guarding”
It will improve if you don't scold him and overwrite the wife's involvement with a “good image”
If you don't mind, please tell me more so I can provide further details:
●Q1
When your wife tries to clean it up, what does Riku-kun do?
Does he stand in her way right there?
Does he growl while keeping his distance?
Does he stop your wife's hand with his nose?
or what kind of movements does he make?
●Q2
When he blocks the shopping bag, is it the same 'getting in the way' movement?
Knowing this will allow for a more precise behavioral analysis.
J-Papa🍓:
Both are behaviors where he 'stands in the way' right there.
ChatGPT📚:
Thank you. The information that he 'stands in the way' is extremely important and allows us to interpret Riku-kun's psychological state quite accurately.
In conclusion, Riku-kun is showing a behavioral pattern of
'Protecting / Guarding'
.
However, this is not aggression, but rather a form of 'light resource guarding' related to the 'protection' of possessions, roles, or routines, which is relatively common in Labradors.
I will now delve deeper into this and summarize the countermeasures in an easy-to-understand way.
■1. 'Standing in the way' = The most typical 'guarding' behavior
Generally, a dog's resource guarding (protection of objects, places, or actions) appears in the following order:
Freezing
Standing in the way
Adopt a tense posture
Growl softly
Show teeth
Bite (last resort)
Riku-kun is at the
"2. Standing in the way" + "light growling"
stage, which is a relatively early and manageable state.
Dealing with it appropriately at this stage is a very good choice.
■2. Why does the "guarding" behavior only occur toward your wife?
This is very interesting, and there are several possibilities from a behavioral perspective.
●① He perceives the actions performed with you as "collaborative work" or a "shared territory between you and him"
This is the most likely reason.
For Riku-kun,
"the post-elimination cleanup routine" = a special set of actions between you and Riku
, so when a third party (your wife) enters that space, he feels:
"Hey, that's my and my master's territory! Don't touch it!"
That is the psychology behind it.
If the shopping bags are also related to
the routine after you return home
or daily routines
, guarding behavior will occur in the same context.
●② Possibility that he senses "tension signals" in your wife's movements or demeanor
Dogs are sensitive to human
body orientation
arm movements
Standing posture
Speed
is read strongly.
If the way your wife moves when cleaning up looks like she is "rushing in" or "taking something away" to Riku, guarding behavior is more likely to occur.
(This happens even if she has no intention of making it look that way.)
(Note: This can happen even if she has no intention of making it look that way.)
●③ Dislike of "the movement of your wife's hands" due to past "slight discomfort"
Dogs often engage in detailed associative learning.
For example,
He was slightly startled when your wife's hand passed nearby in the past
He dislikes the sounds or movements your wife makes when cleaning up
Even from such trivial events,
a feeling of "hands reaching out = feeling uneasy"
can remain.
■3. The current situation is not "dangerous," but adjustments are needed before it becomes a "habit"
The fact that it stops at the stage of blocking and growling is a good sign.
However, since a dog's learning accumulates,
if left unchecked, there is a risk of regressive behavior (showing teeth, growling intensely).
It is fully possible to improve this if you correct it gently while there is still time.
■4. Specific methods for improvement (in order of effectiveness)
★① You act as a "bridge" to set a positive image for your wife
Your wife approaches to clean up
↓
You call Riku to "come"
↓
Have Riku come to your side, give him a treat or use a gentle voice
↓
Your wife cleans up in the meantime
↓
Finish by telling Riku "good boy"
By repeating this,
"your wife cleaning up = something good happens"
can be rewritten into his learning.
★② Gradually acclimate him to your wife's movements starting from "low-stimulus" ones (segmented practice)
For example, the following steps:
Wife comes to 'just 2 meters behind' the sheet → Reward
Wife 'moves a little closer' → Reward
Just standing near the sheet → Reward
Reaching out a hand → Reward
Touching the sheet → Reward
Lifting it up just a little → Reward
Eventually it gets cleaned up
In this way, breaking down the stimulus into small steps leads to a higher success rate.
★③ When a guard response occurs, do not scold; quietly guide the dog yourself
Scolding the moment they growl is a no-go.
Since growling is the 'final warning,' scolding can lead directly to
the danger of biting without warning.
The correct response is:
You call the dog and guide them in a different direction
The wife stops moving
Try again once they have calmed down
This 'quiet reset' is the safest and most effective method.
■5. If necessary, improving the relationship with the wife at the same time is highly effective
Have the wife take charge of short walks
Make the wife the primary person to give treats
Occasionally set aside time for the wife to play with the dog
By doing this, you can reinforce the recognition that
“the wife = the source of good things”
.
■6. Summary (The essence of this behavior)
Riku-kun is performing a guarding behavior to go into “defense” mode
The content is closer to “protecting a role” and is not aggression
He feels that the wife’s cleaning up or handling of the bag is an “interruption”
It is easy to improve with early intervention
It is most effective for you to act as a bridge
If it is not too much trouble, I would like to ask one more thing:
●Q: When your wife tries to touch Riku-kun while he is standing in her way, does he back away? Or does he stay put and hold his ground?
From this difference, we can determine whether it is an “assertive type of guard” or an “anxiety type of guard,” and we can adjust the countermeasures more precisely.
J-Papa🍓:
He stays put and holds his ground (lol)
ChatGPT📚:
Thank you. With the information that he “stays put and holds his ground,” Riku-kun’s type has been almost confirmed.
In conclusion, Riku-kun is a “confident type of guard (assertive guard)”. This is completely different from aggression; it is actually a type often seen in dogs with a strong sense of “pride,” “role awareness,” and “responsibility.”
It also fits the personality of a black Lab very well.
From here, I will provide a more accurate interpretation and suggest even more effective countermeasures.
■1. “Staying put and holding ground” = Confident and “intending to protect” his role
There are broadly two types of guarding behavior in dogs:
●① Anxiety-type guard (backing away/avoiding)
→ Actually, it is scary. It is motivated by anxiety.
●② Assertive Guarding (standing firm or stepping forward)
→ Confident. There is a conviction that "This is my job!"
Riku-kun is clearly type ②.
This can also be said to be
taking pride in the "collaborative cleanup work" with you
.
Therefore, when your wife approaches,
"Oh, that is my and my master's responsibility... (grrr)"
"I am doing it right now, so please don't interfere!"
He is standing in the way with a feeling of "exclusive jurisdiction" (lol).
■2. This type is more sensitive to "role hierarchy" than "relational hierarchy"
It is often misunderstood, but this is not about
looking down on your wife
dominance
superior-inferior relationships
or anything of the sort.
Rather, it is an action stemming from a sense of responsibility and confidence, "not wanting to have his role or work taken away."
Labs are a breed for whom "being useful to people" in a pack is a strong internal reward.
That is precisely why,
● Doing something together with you
● Helping with your actions
when these experiences accumulate, they become surprisingly loyal (and sometimes stubborn) toward that task.
■3. The growling at your wife is not "exclusion" but "preventing interference with the mission"
Assertive guards are, by nature,
wanting to protect their role
not wanting to disrupt the flow
wanting to not have their important routine disturbed
and have a strong desire for these things.
Growling at your wife is a psychology closer to
“protecting the mission” rather than intimidation.
To use an analogy...
● You = Captain
● Riku-kun = Vice-Captain (Maximum sense of duty)
● Wife = “Member of another squad” who occasionally interrupts the mission
So, for Riku-kun, it feels like:
“This is the Captain's and my mission... so... (grrr)”
“I don't want outsiders to enter... (growl)”
(laughs)
■ 4. This is the “most effective” response for an assertive guard
★ ① You officially perform a “transfer of mission”
Assertive dogs will obediently follow if you do it.
The procedure is:
Your wife approaches to clean up
You say to Riku,
“Riku, mission complete.” “Thank you, shift change!”
and gently guide him to the sideYour wife cleans up
You finish by praising Riku-kun at the end
The key is
for you to declare a "change of task."
This is surprisingly effective.
This is because dogs are creatures that remember "flow (routines)" rather than words.
★② Have your wife "speak to him first before touching him suddenly"
Dogs with assertive guarding tendencies are
very sensitive to "how you approach them."
Asking your wife to do the following will speed up the improvement:
Do not reach out suddenly
→ Speak to him first, e.g., "Riku, I'm just going to pass by," or "Thank you."Move slowly
Approach from an angle, not head-on
This will reduce the feeling of "interruption."
★③ Intentionally increase collaborative tasks with your wife
Assertive guarders
change their attitude based on
"Have I performed a task with this person before?"
With your wife,
short walks
having her be the one to give treats
tug-of-war or ball games
having her prepare just a portion of his meal
These "small collaborative tasks" will change the relationship all at once.
■5. Guarding shopping bags can be explained by the same logic
Shopping bags → brought into the house
You return home → a series of routines
Wife organizes the bags → "someone not involved in the task is trying to handle it"
Since this structure is the same,
it can be improved using the same pattern as cleaning up.
■6. Summary: Riku's personality profile (nearly finalized version)
Confident
Strongly task-oriented
Observes your actions and tries to help
Possessive of his roles (= strong sense of responsibility)
The type who clearly separates routines among family members
Your wife is positioned as an 'outsider to his tasks'
That is why he tries to adjust things by blocking her path and growling
In other words...
He is an incredibly smart and hardworking type of black Lab.
🐕
Thank you for staying with me until the end.
He is acting based on his own feelings, isn't he?
I was able to learn some very interesting results.
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