Receiving SEVENTEEN's "emotions" from 3 years of GOSE data
If you're a Carat, you've probably typed these three things.
gwiyeowo (cute) kkkkk (lol) saranghae (love you)
In the comments, on X, on Weverse. You watched a video of your bias, your heart was moved, and you typed them without thinking. Those are the words.
I collected 12,623 Korean comments left on GOING SEVENTEEN and counted how many times each word was used. Your intuition is probably right.
Word : Number of occurrences in comments
ㅋㅋ type (lol) : 2,268 times
ㅠㅠ type (crying) : 1,167 times
gwiyeowo/gwiyeopda (cute) : 743 times
bogosipeo (miss you) : 235 times
saranghae (love you) : 127 times
Carats are properly conveying their feelings in Korean. "Cute," "miss you," "love you." That's impressive. You don't need to memorize these words anymore. You've already been using them.
But, just one thing. Those are all words "you sent to your bias," right?
Now, let's look at the reverse. It's time to receive the words your bias said on screen.
I have already stated on this blog that you should "look at the words spoken." This time, I will delve into that using SEVENTEEN as a case study.
Subtitles translate things neatly as "lonely" or "painful." But they feel things in much more detail. Whether it's seounhae, soksanghae, eogulhae, or dapdaphae. Once you understand the difference, the same scene looks completely different. Yes, I believe that predicates are an interesting element that vividly expresses the worldview of the Korean language, which is different from Japanese.
I will pick out those moments from actual subtitles. You can probably remember the original footage.
* All quotes are from actual GOING SEVENTEEN subtitles. Since speaker names do not appear in the main subtitles, member names are only written when they appear in the subtitles.
seounhada
This verb doesn't fit into a single Japanese word. It covers "lonely," "regrettable," "unsatisfied," and even a bit of "sulking." It is a sadness directed at someone that spans all of those.
The point is that it is "directed at someone." It's not a loneliness felt alone, but the sadness when you expected something from someone, but it didn't come true. "I thought you would understand," "I can't believe you said that." That's why you don't use it with strangers. It's an emotion that only comes out toward someone you can have expectations of and someone you can act spoiled toward.
Please listen to this exchange.
Dokyeom-i, that was seounhaesseo
(Dokyeom, that was what made you seounhaesseo)
Ah~ it's understandable to feel seounhal
(Ah~ it's understandable to feel that way)
The moment you open up, it's affirmed with "I get it." This speed.
And I like this part even more. The scene where Seungkwan is saying this.
S: Dokyeom, you're feeling seounhae (hurt/disappointed) by what he said too, right now
(Dokyeom, hyung, you're feeling seounhae about that remark too, right now)
D:No, I'm not seounhaji ana (hurt/disappointed), I'm really not seounhaji ana
(No, I'm not seounhaji ana, I'm really not seounhaji ana)
D:I'm really not seounhaji anayo
(I'm really not seounhaji anayo)
When Dokyeom is told, "Dokyeom, you're feeling seounhae right now," he denies it by saying, "Seounhaji ana! I'm really an seounhae!" and ends up using formal language, "Jin-jja seounhaji anayo."He repeats "seounhaji ana" three times.
If you translate this into Japanese, it feelssomewhere right between putting on a brave face and being sulky. It's the bravado of insisting, "I'm not lonely," mixed with the sulkiness of actually being a bit bothered. Both are bleeding through the repetition of the negation. Seounhada is an emotion where it's a bit embarrassing to admit you're lonely. That's why he insists, "An seounhae." But the more he denies it, the more it shows through that he is actually a little lonely.
One more. This is a scene where he was teased about family.
Maybe the member my mom hates the most is you, hyung, seriously
(Maybe the member my mom hates the most is you, hyung, seriously)
D:Ah, when you say it like that, I feel a bit seounhaeyo
(Ah, when you say it like that, I feel a bit seounhaeyo)
After being joked with, "I think your mom hates you the most (lol)," he replies, "When you say it like that, I feel a bit seounhaeyo."Returning a lighthearted "I'm a bit seounhae" to a jab between close friends—this is the ultimate way to use seounhada. He isn't genuinely hurt. Because they are close, he's acting spoiled and sulking just a little bit.
If it's translated as "lonely," thissense of "directed at you"all disappears. Seounhada is a word that is always directed at someone.
And this seounhada appears70 timesin the main subtitles. The members keep saying it to each other repeatedly. So, how many times do you think it appears in the fan comment section? Only19 times. Even though their bias says it 70 times, they only get one-fourth of that back from the fans. It's the exact opposite of the "gwiyeowo" (474 times) at the beginning.Gwiyeowo is a word we send, while seounhae is a word our bias says on YouTube. This asymmetry shows us most clearly what it means to "receive."
Seopseophada
A relative of seounhada. But this one ismore like "regretful/unsatisfied" loneliness. It slips out when things end or when something is lacking.
And this. This isthe moment I want you to see most in this article.
Right after someone lets out a "seopseophae"—
No, don't feel seopseophae, we haven't solved anything yet
(No, don't feel seopseophae, we haven't solved anything yet)
Someone felt lonely, and a hand reached out immediately saying, "Seopseophae haji ma." I feel like this reflex is very Seventeen (based purely on the data). No one is left to be lonely. "Don't be lonely" wouldn't capture this speed and kindness (<- just my personal opinion...). It's "Seopseophae haji ma."
It slips out like this in other places too.
Ah, seriously seopseophae... wow...
(Ah, seriously seopseophae... wow...)
Really seopseophada
(Really seopseophada)
No, I'm a little seopseophane
(No, I'm a little seopseophane)
When something ends or is lacking, "seopseophae" slips out like this. It doesn't have the strong "directed at you" feeling that seounhada has; it's a more situational, regretful kind of loneliness.
Soksanghada (upset/distressed)
Sok = inside the heart. Sanghada = to be damaged. It's that feeling when your heart aches deeply. It's not loneliness, but a sense of being burdened or pained.
You have to do it in a voice that sounds like S.Coups is upset.
(You have to say it in a voice that sounds like S.Coups is upset)
A voice that sounds like S.Coups is upset. It's a scene where the leader is feeling deep pain in his heart because of a member. He's trying to project that voice... The leader's distress is heavy.
There's also a pattern of saying it while looking at someone's face.
The face visible through the gap looks upset.
(The face visible through the gap looks upset)
Since you've lost your memory, how upset must you be?
(Since you've lost your memory, how upset must you be?)
"That kid looks upset." Soksanghada can be used for both yourself and others.This word comes up when your bias is worried about someone.
Eogulhada (unfair/wronged)
"Frustrating" isn't enough. The frustration of "Wait, I didn't do anything wrong!?" It's about unreasonableness and a lack of acceptance.
Once you understand this, the way you see your bias getting serious in games will change.
(Seungkwan) The fact that you can feel how... unfair it is
(The fact that you can feel how unfair it is)
[Seungkwan] = Hoshi. "You can feel how unfair it is."
The courtroom mini-drama episode is basically an Eogulhada festival.
Because the verdict didn't rule in my favor in that unfair state
(Because the verdict didn't rule in my favor in that unfair state)
I am in a state where the defendant has been falsely accused
(I am in a state where the defendant has been falsely accused)
"Eogulhan numyeong" (an unfair false accusation). This is the true essence of Eogul. Being suspected when you didn't do it, being punished when you're not at fault. That thing where they raise their voice and go "No, no, no!" That is all, not "frustrating" but "I can't accept this" = Eogulhae.
If you watch the competitive parts with that in mind, it's three times more interesting.
Dap-daphada (stifling/frustrating)
A lump in your chest that won't go away. Frustrating, suffocating,, heavy and oppressive.
It's just so stifling right now, you know?
(It's just so stifling right now, you know?)
I hate it when things are stifling
(I hate it when things are stifling)
Things aren't going well, they aren't getting through, things aren't going as planned. It's like live-commentating that feeling of being stuck in your chest by saying "dapdaphae" (frustrating) on the spot.
This gradation is nice, isn't it?
For all the unfair, frustrating, and infuriating things in the world
(For all the eogul, dapdap, and infuriating things in the world)
Eogul (unfair) → dapdap (frustrating) → kingbatda (infuriating). Negative emotions lined up like this. You can even tell the level of irritation your bias is feeling. Dapdaphae isn't anger, but a sign that "things aren't going well and there's a lump in my chest."
Seolleda
Yes, the happiest one for last. To flutter, to be excited, to have your heart race. Not just for love, but for anything you're looking forward to. That pounding in your chest before a comeback, before a stage, before something new begins.
In the subtitles, it pops up like this.
Naeildo seolleyo
(I'm excited for tomorrow too)
"Tomorrow, I'm excited too." This one phrase, said before a schedule or event. Seolleda is an emotion felt *before* something good happens. It's not after it's over, but the excitement for what's about to begin.
Seolleyo
(I'm excited)
Carats know this too, right? The moment a comeback announcement drops, the moment a teaser is released, the night before a concert. Your bias is using the same word to describe that "seolleda" feeling. Fans and their bias are waiting with the same "seolleda" feeling. That's actually quite moving.
Could you recall the emotions we've covered so far?
DK's "seowonhaesseo" and his reflex for "seopseophae haji ma," S.Coups's soksanghan (upset) voice, Hoshi's eogul (unfairness), and the seolleda (excitement) that both the bias and the fans are waiting for.
Subtitles might group them together as "lonely," "painful," or "excited," but they feel them in such nuanced ways. When you can receive that, your bias feels much closer.
It's a bit of a waste to just end it at "gwiyeowo" (cute). From now on, it's your turn to receive. If you pay attention to the verbs, your resolution for analyzing your bias's emotions should improve significantly. You can understand emotions much better by focusing on vocabulary (especially predicates) rather than sentence endings.
[Saved Version] Quick Reference Guide to Your Bias's Gamjeong
Everything below is for you to screenshot and keep on hand. A quick reference guide for when you're watching subtitles and think, "Wait, what emotion was this again?"
The Three Brothers of Loneliness and Hardship
Word: In short | When it appears | Heart's arrow
seounhada: Sulky loneliness | When you're taken aback by someone's words or actions | Toward the other person
seopseophada: Regretful loneliness | When things end or are lacking | Toward the situation
soksanghada: Pain inside the heart | When worried or things don't go as planned | Toward oneself or others
Irritated/Frustrated category
Word: In short | Point
eogulhada: It's not my fault! | Not anger, but "unfairness." Like getting worked up in a game
dapdaphada: Frustrating/Suffocating | Not anger, but a "lump in the throat"
Negative intensity order (as seen in subtitles):
eogul (unfair) → dapdap (frustrating) → kingbatda (annoying)
Happy category
Word: In short | Point
seolleda: Fluttering/Excited | Not just for romance. Also the anticipation before a comeback
Data: GOING SEVENTEEN 123 episodes (EP.30–147) Korean subtitles, approximately 100,000 lines, 12,623 Korean comments. All citations are from actual subtitles. Since there are no speaker labels in the main subtitles, member names are identified only in scenes where their names are recorded within the subtitles.
